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I’ve found that clicking on the green ‘+’ button in the upper left hand corner of a window does not appear to have the same effect as on a PC. On the PC, doing so causes that window to go to full screen. On the Mac, it appears to only increase the window to the biggest size it needs to be, but does not go ‘full screen’ . Is there an easy way of quickly maximizing a window to use the whole page ? Its like reading a magazine article by opening it 1/4 open ? Or just pealed a corner at a time of a newspaper article instead of opening the whole page? . I cant have full focus on a particular thing i am doing ( like coding , surfing , text editing ) without having the window full sized. May be it is because i just came from windows world but Generally people need focus to what they are doing but in Mac how this can be achieved without having the active window full size.



Apple’s philosophy is that a maximized environment is inherently inefficent since it makes dragging content from one window to another cumbersome . Many types of documents are vertically oriented (like a printed page), yet monitors are wider than they are tall. So, for instance, it doesn’t make sense for a word processing document to fill the width of the screen.

The zoom button toggles its window between 2 states, the standard state and the user state. The standard state is determined by the application developer. Apple’s Human Interface Guidelines provide this sensible direction to programmers for deciding the standard state of a window:

“Don’t assume that the standard state should be as large as possible; some monitors are much larger than the useful size for a window.”

Individual users determine the user state of their window by manually resizing it; the zoom button will then toggle between these two states.

Microsoft’s philosophy is that windows can be one of two sizes - a standard size (which can be resized), or maximized (filling the entire screen). If a user doesn’t like working with the standard size, the obvious solution is to make the window fill the entire screen so that you can see more content on the screen at once. Thus, all XP windows have a maximize button that toggles between these two states.

XP regards the last state that the window was in before it was closed as the preferred state. When you reopen a window, it will open back up to the state in which you left it. Maximized windows cannot be moved or resized. When you maximize a window, its maximize button turns into a “restore” button to return the window to its previous state.

Maximized windows have two main advantages:

  • You cannot click outside of the maximized window, such as on the desktop or a background window (which makes it impossible for it to lose focus by an accidental click)
  • Screen clutter is reduced because other open windows will be covered up by the maximized window

A detailed comparison of this is here .


For example here is a scenario which i particularly find most irritating . For a Finder window with lots of folders open when clicked on the green zoom button doesn’t increase the windows to the width i like . In that case i have to maximize the window from right bottom corner. After doing this also when i click green zoom button the window again goes back to the previous window size. To have this modified window size i have to arrange icons ( right click > arrange icons ) to fit the window size, then only the window size remains the same after i click the green zoom button . Though i did this on a specific finder window it  doesn’t work universally for all the finder windows. The Finder ( Explorer equivalent in windows ) will retain the size for that particular finder state only. So after doing all this of window resize and arrange icons if i go to another Folder the previous size i had applied doesn’t apply to the folder i just opened. This behavior of Mac Finder really annoys me.

You may read this about how many people dont like such behavior of window zoom in Mac .

There is an App which does the full screen job easier in Mac called MegaZoomer . For Megazoomer to work you will be needing SIMBL . SIMBL (Smart InputManager Bundle Loader) - pronounced like “symbol” or “cymbal” allows you to build hacks for Cocoa applications and apply the code selectively based on an application’s unique identifier. But sadly ,  megazoomer doesn’t work in Carbon applications (e.g., Finder, iTunes, Photoshop) .It Only works for Cocoa apps.

Below is the video of Mac Finder Zoom.
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7 Responses to “Most Annoying thing in Mac - Maximizing windows”

  1. Wendy SINGAPORE Says:

    I dislike this behavior also, especially when running my web browser.

  2. MacPhobia INDIA Says:

    True Wendy. But i have found that using MegaZoomer you can actually browse full window ( works for Safari , not for Firefox and Opera though ) . you may also give it a try

  3. celebritarian SWEDEN Says:

    Unlike Wendy, I prefer Mac OS X way of dealing with individual window sizes to every other way (Windows, KDE, Gnome…).

    Since I easily find myself having 20 to 30 windows open, I sometimes lose my focus — simply because I know I have a lot of other apps around (and therefore a lot of “idle” tasks, too)…

    Oh, by the way: In Windows you “maximize” your windows, letting them fill up all of your screen. The green button (or the one with a plus sign) in Mac OS X, however, does not maximize anything. When you push it, you “zoom” — the window grows so it will exactly fit its content.

    Mac OS X way of optimizing the size of a window after its content simply makes more sense to me:

    1. If a web site is 900 pixels wide and, say, 600 pixels tall — why blowing the size of that window up, simply because you _can_? Why would you want to waste precious screen estate on a (to the bigger extent) blank window?

    2. In Mac OS X, when a window is smaller than its content (e.g., so a vertical or horizontal scroll bar appears) — push the zoom button, and you will see all the content within a perfectly sized window.

    And most importantly: When your windows are exactly as big as they need to be, you are able to have a lot of them open at once, and see all your information at once. No need to minimize windows, or alt+tab to see that other window. Drag and drop things between windows and applications… When active windows are in full screen, drag and drop will never work as good as in Mac OS X.

    Lastly, if you sometimes feel like working in full screen in Mac OS X, here’s a tips:

    Hide the Dock (⌘ + ⌥ + D). Now, resize your window so it takes up all your screen. Well… it might do the job for you :)

    If you write a lot and are a low-tech fan: WriteRoom will serve you fine.

  4. MacPhobia INDIA Says:

    @ celebritarian . I agree to some of your points about how Mac OSX behaves with window sizes. Its more of the personal preferences but i dont feel like i can focus on a particular window when there are 5-6 windows open in your screen particularly when you have big resolution monitor . say for example , there are 6 safari windows open with different website , the drag and drop theory wont very much work in this case and you cant surf 6 websites at once..

    In case of Finder , having many windows may have advantages . In windows even in Full screen drag and drop is easy . Drag the item bring that to task bar to the window you want to drag that item to , the window will automatically maximize then you can drop the item in that windows . Easy it is .

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