There already is a problem with Mac with the window size . It seems that mac basically doesn’t let application go Full Screen ( hiding all menu bar and dock ) . For example i was trying go Full screen while editing in Microsoft word in Mac . Full screen doesn’t act like it does in Windows version of Microsoft word. It doesn’t really go full screen . It can be because of the Application limitation itself but there are other applications which work good with full screen in windows and the same dont even have full screen option available in “View” menu for Mac. Say for example windows inbuilt default browser Internet Explorer has the full screen option. Whereas the inbuilt browser of Apple Mac - Safari doesn’t have it. Bad really bad. I dont really understand why they haven’t put Full screen option. Again the most popular browser Firefox has good Full screen option available in windows but the same is not available in Mac version. Was there any kind of coding complexity for Firefox developers for Mac to include Full Screen option in Mac firefox. I guess they had otherwise there shouldn’t be any reason to deliberately remove Full Screen option only in Mac. Ok Safari doesn’t have it , Firefox doesn’t have it but Opera has the option of Full Screen. So i generally use Opera in Mac just for this one good reason . I rarely use firefox in Mac. Among some other browsers for mac Shiira supports Full Screen but Sunrise doesn’t .
Full Screen in Shiira
Having said all that . I have found some tool in Mac which can achieve the Full Screen thing in most of the Mac Applications detail is here .
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You can also try Plainview: http://www.tuaw.com/2008/06/04/plainview-chromeless-browser-for-presentations/
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Thanks Robert, there are lots of search to be done for a new mac user for simple things like this to get working.
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Here’s a couple ideas. First, if you want anything to get close to full screen, you’ll need to enable hiding of the dock, which you can do by simply context-clicking on the dock. Second, you will hardly ever see a full screen mode which will cover the menubar, because this wouldn’t allow the user to interact with important system functions. This is different from Windows because on Mac OS X, all menu functions are relegated to the menubar.
Also, one thing to remember is that the green plus-sign button is not a maximize button, but is instead a zoom button. On web browsers, this usually opens the current window to its maximum possible size, but as you have noticed it’s not a true full screen mode. If you want to closer approximate full screen mode, simply click the top right button which will hide the main toolbar.
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@mediaphile…. these points have been discussed already … please see them here http://macphobia.com/most-annoying-thing-in-mac-maximizing-windows.macphobia#comment-14
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Well then what’s the point of this article if you already understand the reasons for not supporting a fullscreen environment?
You just need to get out of Windows mode. Especially now with Spaces built right into the OS. Most websites are designed for 1024×768 resolution, and my tiny little MacBook screen is already 1280×800. On my screen, and especially anything larger, there’s just no logical reason to run fullscreen. You’re losing functionality. If you can’t focus well, perhaps you should look into the “Think” application.
http://freeverse.com/apps/app/?id=7013
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@mediaphile . This site basically compares things about windows and Mac. and gives reasoning on how a windows user generally doesn’t like Mac .
Anyways thanks for the links u have provided.
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And again why Firefox doesn’t have full screen option? Let Safari not have it because Apple made it according to their concept . But firefox shouldn’t have removed full screen option only Mac. i hope there is some coding difficulty in Mac for firefox developers to include Full screen
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Ah, I see. Well I used Windows as my primary OS from version 3.11 until Vista. I finally made the switch to OS X when Apple migrated to Intel processors, and once I realized that Tiger was more stable and usable. Leopard is even better.
I can see how some people might find the transition a little rocky, but full screen isn’t anything to get hung up about.
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Yup, I use Windows at work but at home i am using Mac OS X . but for some reasons i like windows sometimes.
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Mozilla is just following Apple’s Human Interface Guidelines, and rightfully so.
Full screen mode doesn’t make sense. You may like it, but that doesn’t make it a logical feature.
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That means Shiira is not following , Opera is not following the Apples HIG ?
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I’m downloading Shiira right now, but it’s definitely not a major browser, and it doesn’t belong in a discussion of the operating system. And Opera started as a Windows browser, and to this day still has issues integrating with the aesthetics and usability of the Mac operating system.
It is of course _possible_ to run things full screen, but it’s not an efficient method of working with most software.
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Your own site, for example, does not benefit in any way from running fullscreen even on a 1024×768 screen, let alone a more modern screen with a larger resolution.
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Hope you have read why i dont like Firefox in Mac. if not here is the link http://macphobia.com/why-i-dont-use-firefox-in-mac.macphobia do u have such problem with firefox. Though right now u are using Flock . how is it?
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I believe the reason for the different cursor is that Firefox (and Flock, which is directly based on Firefox) uses the Carbon framework, which uses the old black cursor animations, instead of Cocoa which is what most new software runs on. I don’t know why Mozilla hasn’t changed this, but you may have noticed that Firefox isn’t the only piece of software to revert to the old cursors. In fact, I believe even iTunes suffers from the same problem, though I may be wrong about that. It doesn’t really mean anything, and it doesn’t change the usability at all. It’s just visually inconsistent.
Flock is great, but I’m using the most recent beta that runs on Firefox 3, and it’s a little buggy and not quite as fast as Firefox 3. Right now, Firefox 3 is the best and fastest browser available on any platform, and especially on the Mac.
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I love Safari than Firefox. not only mouse cursor Firefox doesn’t run like a native Mac OS X application - not as smooth as safari
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your assertions about the Cocoa and carbon seems agreeable to me….
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[...] i am not used to its some of the behavior. This particular reason i dont like Mac is related to the Mac’s Window Full screen issue. Most of the Mac application dont go full screen to fit the monitor width but some of them do. For [...]
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mediaphile,
Brilliant!
I’d never even noticed that tiny little gray-on-gray button at the top-right corner of Firefox. But as soon as you mentioned it, I saw it, clicked it, and Yes! It works. It’s not exactly full-fullscreen (or quite as easy as clicking the F11 key when in any browser in Windows), but it’s pretty darn convenient, giving the user a quick way to toggle between almost-fullscreen and normal browser views on a Mac.
(Note: this button only imitates fullscreen mode if you’ve already clicked the green button on the upper-left of the screen first, to maximize your window size. The upper-right button is not actually enlarging the window, but is instead hiding the menu- and search-bars. Which, in itself, is cool, since this means that the button also serves as an easy way to clean up the view scheme in other-sized windows as well.)
This is the 10th web page I’ve visited on this subject, but your comment is the first time I’ve seen this button mentioned. Everyone else recommended various plugins, javascript hacks, etc. — but your solution is the easiest, since this button seems to be included in Firefox by default, without any messing-about needed (at least, the button is there automatically in Firefox 3 on Leopard OSX).
thank you.
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Here’s a couple ideas. …. If you want to closer approximate full screen mode, simply click the top right button which will hide the main toolbar.
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This whole subject is actually quite ridiculous. This isn’t the question of “Where is fullscreen in Mac,” but rather “Where is fullscreen in Firefox.”
Your stated “hope” for it to be a programming complication is very typical and only shows your lack of knowledge in the subject. Mediaphile says that it’s an Apple standard that Mozilla chose to work with. If this was the case they would have fixed the zoom button long ago.
As was also stated, and I hadn’t thought of it before that, the menubar is almost always there on a Windows machine, for comparison-sake. Firefox in fullscreen on Mac is no less fullscreen than on Windows. For that matter it just might be more.
This isn’t difficult to figure out, but in the ‘View’ menu you can get rid of the status bar and toolbars, and in ‘Preferences’ you can hide the tab bar when not in use. I would like to find an actual fullscreen mode, but it’s already moreso than on Windows.